Twin Talks
Creating a Routine for Your Newborn Twins

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DORIS KICHEN: The first month in the life of twins is supposed to be beautiful. It’s a time for the whole family to get to know each other, gaze into each other’s eyes, feed your babies, diaper change, pee them again, and try to get some sleep then repeat it all over again several times a day. But, it often seems to be so unpredictable.

I’m Doris Kichen, a postpartum Doula and I’m here to help new parents keep their sanities by creating a routine for your twins the first month of life. This is Twin Talks Episode Number 6.

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CHRISTINE STEWART-FITZGERALD: If you’re pregnant with twins or you’re an experienced twin parent, odds are you have heard it all before. Now, it’s time to hear from the experts. This is Twin Talks, parenting times two.

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SHELLY STEELY: We have a new Virtual Panellist Program which allows you to participate from the comfort of your own home. You can follow along on our Facebook or on Twitter. But, if you’d like to become a part of the conversation on Twitter from home, just use hash tag #TwinTalksVP to become a virtual panellist in our discussions.

CHRISTINE STEWART-FITZGERALD: Thanks. Before we get started today, we’ve got a couple of panellists in our studio. Let’s go around and just do some quick introductions. So, I’m going to start with Mishell across from me.

MISHELL RUDDEN: Hi I’m Mishell Rudden. I’m 33 years old and I’m currently working part time as a kindergarten teacher and I have one set of twins – boy-girl twins and they’re 18 months old now.

CHRISTINE STEWART-FITZGERALD: Eighteen months and working full time with kindergarteners.

MISHELL RUDDEN: Part time with kindergarteners, the full time would be a bit much.

CHRISTINE STEWART-FITZGERALD: Shelly, our producer

SHELLY STEELY: I’m Shelly Steely. I’m 30. I have identical twin boys – Greyson and Sawyer who are 15 months old. I do work full time as a history teacher but with high schoolers.

CHRISTINE STEWART-FITZGERALD: We’ve got a lot of education in the room. For me, I’m Christine Stewart-Fitzgerald your host. Now, I’ve got my four year old identical girls; Alexander and Julia. They just had their birthday. It’s becoming a lot more fun. There is a lot of fun in our house, a lot of role playing. I have a singleton who just turned one year old, Michaela. So, I got all three girls; lot of fun.

So before we start today’s show, let’s look at a new app. We try to look at some smart phones apps that help us manage the twin pregnancies and parenting, anything that makes life easier. Today’s app, it’s called: “Baby Care.” It’s found in both the iTunes Marketplace as well as the Google Play.

Baby Care is basically a tracking device for logging all the different daily details of your baby’s life. So, when they’re really young; we know that we want to track the:

• Pooping
• The peeing
• How much they’re eating
• When they’re sleeping.

That’s a lot of stuff to try to remember. Sometimes, the medical professionals would like to see that kind of data that kind of help them get a better picture of how they’re doing.

So, I know kind of the old school way is just pen and paper but now, we’ve got some apps here. What did you think of that?

SHELLY STEELY: So, we did pen and paper at first because we had my mom coming over to help a little bit during the evenings. Basically, when my husband was at work; my mom would come and stay with us in the early days. So, pen and paper just work best with three people trying to see who had diapers when and who changed whom.

So, once I was back at work; we actually used a similar app and it looks like this; one has all of the same cool functions which is free which is great. It was just great because my husband and I can constantly be in touch about what was going on with the babies. So, did one nurse for longer; which side was with on; how many ounces do they pump? Who had a bath? Who had Tylenol?

Really, with two babies, it’s so easy to get confused – not that we don’t which baby is which but then in the middle of the night if you’re giving one medicine, if you can just track it on an app that way when the next baby woke up and it was maybe my husband’s turn; wouldn’t give the same baby Tylenol again, two hours later.

So, I could really see that. It was definitely something that was useful for us in the early days. We probably used an app similar to that through almost six months and that one looks great.

CHRISTINE STEWART-FITZGERALD: I should point out the baby care and when I was looking online for some of the baby tracking apps, most of them are designed for just singletons, single babies. They really weren’t that many that offered the option of having multiple babies. So, I think that’s definitely something important. I should mention: “This one was free as well.” So, this is a full service. They get their money by advertising. So Mishell, would you use something like this?

MISHELL RUDDEN: Personally, I guess I’m kind of old school. I love with the pen and paper. For me, when I was getting up in the middle of the night, that was not the time I want to be fidgeting around with my phone. We did, we use the little battery-operated monitor that you could just kind of click on and it will let you know when you last fed or changed each baby. We had one for each baby.

CHRISTINE STEWART-FITZGERALD: That’s definitely smart. I use the little timers. Since I’ve had my smart phone; it’s pretty much attached to me like all the time. So, four years later; I think would probably use this just because it’s usually in my hand anyway. Then, I would want to be looking kind of the sleep patterns because we didn’t really look at sleep patterns.

It was more about like: “Okay, how long has it been since we changed the diaper? It’s been three hours.” They’re probably wet or we probably have a poopy diaper.

SHELLY STEELY: We did use the app phone when we’re having sleep problems. We entered every single waking sleep time and I calculate it for us like charts of when they were sleeping and how long are they awake and we use that to kind of build a routine from. So, like I said: “It was similar.”

I liked that this one is free because I certainly didn’t like paying. When you’re paying for everything else – for me, when my husband and I working opposite schedules – we were never able to really communicate. Our phones are attached like strategically attached to my hand.

So, at this time; I can be pumping at my lunch break and looked down and see that the baby’s had their bottles and that they were sleeping. So, I would know when I would get home later exactly what I had to do. So, I think it’s definitely very useful.

MISHELL RUDDEN: I will say I’ve got a lot of girlfriends using these types of things with their babies right now and they are just loving it.

CHRISTINE STEWART-FITZGERALD: Yes, very cool. I guess it really depends, if you’re a tech person or not. Okay, so Mishell and Shelly; based on what you’ve seen – would you use this? Would you give it a thumbs up or thumbs down? What are your thoughts?

MISHELL RUDDEN: I would give it thumbs up as a recommendation however, for myself I probably give it thumbs down. I just know that I wouldn’t keep track of it or use it.

CHRISTINE STEWART-FITZGERALD: Just not for you but it’s an okay app for someone to recommend to somebody else

MISHELL RUDDEN: Absolutely.

SHELLY STEELY: I would give it thumbs up. Definitely, something I would use.

CHRISTINE STEWART-FITZGERALD: Awesome. I have to say: “When I downloaded it to my phone – I put even my singleton use now is one.” I thought that there might be some value in kind of just tracking her sleep. We’re trying to get her to sleep the night. It might be a good thing.

Today’s topic is: “Creating a routine for your twins the first month.” We’re talking with Doris Kichen, a Certified Postpartum Doula who specializes in multiples. She’s been serving families throughout Southern California for many years.

Now, Doris in the earlier episode; we talked about: “Bringing home twins in the first week which just like wow, major change.” How does this really change from one week to going to the first month of the life of twins and what kind of developmental changes and transitions usually take place within that first month?

DORIS KICHEN: Well, in the first week or so of life – you’re really looking for the weight gain of the baby and get them peeing and pooping and regulated to be on the outside mama. Then, after that I’d say: “After day 5 to 7 to 10, it actually to start to gets easier.” You start having fun with your baby. You look forward to them to wake up versus: “They’re awake again, what will I do?”

So, developmentally; there are so many things that are taking place. The fact that the brain is developing better, they’re getting awake sleep cycle. They’re born kind of nocturnal. Now, they’re learning the difference between sleeping at night versus sleeping all day. Moms’ feel more rested and they can if they have support.

CHRISTINE STEWART-FITZGERALD: Definitely. So, it sounds like the babies are learning to sleep at night time, does that mean some baby’s actually sleep through the night in that first month or no? Should we even think about that?

DORIS KICHEN: It’s really dangerous to let the baby sleep more than three or four hours. It depends what their weight gain is. So, if you’re baby has a weight gain of half an ounce to two ounces per day; you can let them go that extra hour at night without waking them up for a feed. So, you can go four hours stretch if they’re capable of it. Then, add on to your successes.

So, depending on how fast you get the baby home effectively they’re nursing or bottle-feeding. The criteria is: “They’re gaining between half an ounce and two ounces a day.” They’re three months of age or they double in weight to let them sleep through the night.

CHRISTINE STEWART-FITZGERALD: Okay, so doubling their birth weight within the first month and within whatever time period.

DORIS KICHEN: Generally, it doesn’t happen.

MISHELL RUDDEN: You’re on the process.

CHRISTINE STEWART-FITZGERALD: In the process so we should just not have that expectation at all. So, as far as sleeping then what are the sleep requirements for babies in this time period? I always hear that: “Babies are just sleeping all the time.” I don’t know.

I think with my twins, I just did not find that to be the case. I have a few pictures of my babies in their little carriers. It was cute but I don’t have a lot of memories of them sleeping a lot.

DORIS KICHEN: Babies usually sleep between 15 and 18 hours a day. After they eat, they get – especially if they’re breastfed. They get kind of an Oxytocin download. They tend to be really sleepy during and after their feed. Then, kind of wake up 20 or 30 minutes later and you’re like: “I just fed you.”

But, they’re not waking up for that. They’re waking up for the opportunity to be awake and to learn to live their life and have connection with their surroundings. So, it’s all about a huge learning process for them. Their world is so vastly different on the outside of the mom it is on the inside of the mom. So, look for little windows of time for them to be awake during the day.

Generally, the first month – they can do that or should be doing that two to three times per day. If you can get a rhythm going with them then their wake sleep cycle you can really; I don’t ever use the word sleep train but technically what’s happening.

So, you’re showing them: “They’re safe to sleep now. You don’t have to be awake but if you’d like to be awake and then how to go back to sleep in a calm way without mom bouncing in all that for 45 minutes.”

CHRISTINE STEWART-FITZGERALD: So, if there’s sleeping. So, the average is 15 to 18 hours a day; now, that’s for full term babies as well as preemies or well. Does that change?

DORIS KICHEN: Preemies are a huge difference there. When a baby is premature; I like to talk, teach moms that you need to be treating them like they’re not born yet. So, you have to kind of supplement or augment what will be happening in the room.

So, the feedings need to be consistent. Everything needs to be kind of a nice routine it’s because you want them to develop. Then, after they get to term; sometimes babies will a couple of weeks before term, they really start getting it.

CHRISTINE STEWART-FITZGERALD: So, a learning curve.

DORIS KICHEN: But, I always tell moms – you’re going to be really tired when you bring home preemie babies because it’s such cons to carry; you can’t really let up because you’re their lifeline. After they get to term and they’re stronger then you can start letting them, have a little more space in the world; just their own eat, sleep pattern by themselves.

CHRISTINE STEWART-FITZGERALD: I would think that – if sleep patterns are different for preemies with their age adjusted; it probably the same when we for nutritional requirements as well.

DORIS KICHEN: Right, preemies are going to sleep most of the time. So, you’re going to have to wake them up to feed them and then diaper them, nurture them. Hopefully, hold them a lot. That’s kind of a battle to just kind of get them to wake up long enough to eat.

CHRISTINE STEWART-FITZGERALD: So, maybe the old adage about don’t wake a sleeping baby doesn’t apply to preemies?

DORIS KICHEN: Does not.

CHRISTINE STEWART-FITZGERALD: So, we’ll wake them up. I guess also for healthy term babies; so what are the some nutritional requirements? I know that for a lot of the breast feeding moms especially go how much milk should we be producing if we’re drinking formula, how much they should be drinking within that first month?

DORIS KICHEN: It’s a max of half an ounce per pound of baby which is a lot of food. If you’re breastfeeding, you want to feel your breast before you put the baby on and really learn your body language can how swollen s my breast right; how much milk is in my breast right now. It’s really demand the baby demands it, the body supplies.

It’s not the opposite like we hear supply and demand. It’s the baby needs to get on there and learn to suck, strip of your breast as much as milk as they can and or that they need. That’s what tells your brain to make more milk. If you’re bottle-feeding, you want to not give them more than half an ounce per pound.

CHRISTINE STEWART-FITZGERALD: So, with twins, we can’t assume that each twin is going to have exactly the same requirements. Like Mishell, it’s different.

DORIS KICHEN: That’s why you Breast A and Breast B and they nurse some breast day. This feeding and then the next time, they’re going to Breast B and you keep track of it and rotate them because each baby – the twins are going to require a different amount of food.

CHRISTINE STEWART-FITZGERALD: Mishell, our panellist; did you find, were your twins did they have same or different requirements when they were nursing? Did one stay on like the stay on longer?

MISHELL RUDDEN: I didn’t notice that. I think that they stayed on pretty much the same amount of time within that first month, the period that we’re referring too – my son actually wasn’t latching. So, I would nurse my daughter then pump; then bottle feed him and then try to train him to latch.

So, it was kind of a different type of process than what we’re talking about. But, later on after I got him latched – I would say: “Yes, they were on about the same amount of time.” When I did give them the expressed milk at night; we would feed them out of bottles so that my husband can participate and they would take the same amount of ounces at that time as well.

CHRISTINE STEWART-FITZGERALD: I think you’ve mentioned: “So, one of your twins was in the NICU – just give a little bit background information.”

MISHELL RUDDEN: Correct. He was only there for a few days. So, I cannot say for sure that that’s the reason he didn’t latched but to me it kind of feels like that.

CHRISTINE STEWART-FITZGERALD: The delay in the process. So, you were actually doing some bottle-feeding and breast feeding to totally different process admit. I imagine it was hard to even measure – are they getting the same amount or they consuming the same thing.

MISHELL RUDDEN: In that beginning about first month of the time. I didn’t feel that there was any lack. I was just between the nursing and the pumping – I felt like I was making more than enough for what they needed. So, maybe I was just lucky in that.

CHRISTINE STEWART-FITZGERALD: That’s awesome. That didn’t last the entire time.

MISHELL RUDDEN: I was nursing for sure. But that first month; my body was making what they needed.

CHRISTINE STEWART-FITZGERALD: That’s awesome. I think I kind of go into our next question. For the breastfeeding moms of twins, this does translate into the need for pumping. Most of the twin moms I know did some form of breast milk pumping.

So, maybe Doris – you can talk about what are some of the different options for incorporating breast milk pumping, feeding on or exclusively bottle-feeding; tell us about that. What have you seen in the families that you’ve helped?

DORIS KICHEN: When you introduce pumping into the breast feeding equation, time consuming. You need to be sure when you’re going to be a mom that pumps and it is tricky when you have twins because it’s double the fun. Keep the babies fed, make sure that there’s satiated and then pump immediately after for ten or so minutes. Maybe put on an ounce off, if possible.

But, chances are on the first month – the babies are taking what you’re making. There’s not always going to be a huge [inaudible] left. So, it’s really just for supplement to give them the last little bit of their nutrition. Hopefully, they’re getting in as much as they can for the moms.

SHELLY STEELY: I mean almost all twins are going to be born a little bit early. The earlier they are, the more trouble they have with breastfeeding in general. So, my boys were born 37 weeks which is just technically full term and they had no latch issues everything, thank goodness. But, they were falling asleep while nursing because they were just so exhausted from the energy that it took. They weren’t getting enough so they were losing late.

I had a lactation consultant visit me in the hospital and it was kind of: “We were okay with just breastfeeding but like almost every twin mom I know, at some point, you have to pump in supplement a little bit.” So, that’s a real challenge because then you are nursing both babies because you want them to make sure that they know how to nurse and then you’re bottle feeding both babies to make sure that they get enough without because it takes less energy to drink from the bottle.

Then you’ve got to pump again so that the next time that they wake up, they have that other bottle ready. It’s called: “Triple Feeding.” I found a lot of twin moms have to do that. It is really hard because by the time you were done – it’s a 90 minute process for the two babies. That was the shortest. It was two hours, the first time we’ve tried it and we got it down the 90 minutes. That was the least amount of time.

The babies had fallen asleep while I was pumping. We would be looking at maybe 45 minutes to an hour of we were lucky before they woke up again. Luckily, I didn’t have supply issues but when you’re on that every three hours feeding cycle and you spent 90 of those minutes feeding; you’ve got barely any time.

If they didn’t fall asleep right away, we’ve had to put them to sleep, swaddle them. Change their diaper that they peed through again. So, we’re in zero sleep for the first month. I don’t think we slept at all to be honest but it does get easier. It’s a lot easier.

CHRISTINE STEWART-FITZGERALD: I think breastfeeding was probably – for me, probably the biggest challenge. Yes, like you said – I think that first month is just so critical of can we do it with this marathon race? To get through and then it’s like: “Okay, one month – one milestone.”

I’m switching gears here, we’re talking about feeding and what leads from feeding to pooping and peeing. So, when it comes to diaper changing; so, how many diapers can twin parents expect to change each day and does it vary from breastfed versus formula fed? What’s coming out?

DORIS KICHEN: Definitely, it does. It’s funny but moms; you can tell so much through the poopy diaper about what their getting nutritionally. So, the first few days of life – to meconium and then after that, we’re looking for transitional stool. By day 5, 6, 7 – you want to see a poo that is a mustard colour recedes in it – that’s the solids. The seeds are the solids and it shows that they’re getting the highest nutrition from your breast.

Breastfed babies will poo – the first few days in life we’re looking for one pee or one poo per day of life. Then, after that we’re looking for probably 6 to 8 pees and poos per day. It’s not going to always happen at the same time. So, you could be doing 16 -18 diaper changes a day.

CHRISTINE STEWART-FITZGERALD: Is that per kid or just total combined?

DORIS KICHEN: That’s per kid.

CHRISTINE STEWART-FITZGERALD: My gosh. Okay, thankfully I didn’t have that but wow. That did take a lot.

DORIS KICHEN: Depending on your baby.

CHRISTINE STEWART-FITZGERALD: So, definitely I need to stock up on diapers.

SHELLY STEELY: We got that. We went through over 800 diapers the first month of our boys counted.

DORIS KICHEN: That’s actually a good thing. That does slow down as they develop but in the beginning, there’s should be lots of pee and poo.

CHRISTINE STEWART-FITZGERALD: Okay, when we come back; we’re going to look at how these different needs – they translate into a typical awake and sleep cycle during the day.

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CHRISTINE STEWART-FITZGERALD: Welcome back. Today, we’re talking about: “Creating a routine with your twins the first month with Doris Kichen.” Our discussion continues as we look at what typical, eating, sleeping, cycle might look like.

So, Doris we kind of talked about the different components and then putting them all together – what does it look like in the day through for the babies, in sleeping and then waking up and eating? Then how does that translate for the parents in how they spend their time?

DORIS KICHEN: Okay, there’s a really great read by Dr. Phyllis and Marshall Klaus called: Your Amazing Newborn. It talks about the six states, awake and sleep of what that looks like. When I’m working with my families – I always tell them: “If you can get this down, you have the golden key to success.”

If you can understand the wake, sleep, eat pattern of what your baby’s doing – the sooner you figure it out, the better it’s going to be. So, if you want to quick read that would be a fantastic. I found it fascinating and I learned a tremendous amount about it. So, there really are three steps of being awake. You’ll see your baby very still then they’ll get for a while.

They think they’re taking in their sight, their sound and their smell at that point developmentally and then they move and they’re taking another sense which would be touched and then they will cycle into like a little wham where they – it’s not a cry but it’s just an expression. They do this whole cycle; it’s really fascinating to watch.

CHRISTINE STEWART-FITZGERALD: That’s great; we will put that on our website definitely. So, if I was trying to plan things out and look at: “My baby’s sleeping for a few hours and then I have all these other things.” I know feeding itself just takes a lot of time. I think Shelly touched on that.

I know like in my case – even when I was doing tandem feeding, it would easily take 45 minutes and then following that by pumping and that could easily be another half an hour. So, it seemed like it was an assembly line process: “Okay, feeding and then I had someone helping me and I literally hand them off.” They get diapered. They get nap and then it’s my time for pumping.

DORIS KICHEN: It’s really a full core press, the first month to life it just is. It’s really just nurturing yourself and your baby. So, you’re expectations on getting a lot of other things done; don’t have them.

CHRISTINE STEWART-FITZGERALD: You said it.

DORIS KICHEN: Don’t have them and when can you have friends or family help, use it.

SHELLY STEELY: Sometimes outside help is really the help that you wanted to be. So, we talk about getting into that. Not really like a sat routine but you get into a group then you know, your baby is in like how to take care of them; it becomes an assembly line.

So, for me if somebody came over and wanted to help; I couldn’t really take their help with the babies at all even family members aside from my mom who was there. If you do want to do the dishes, that would be great.

I never felt comfortable saying that but they would say: “Let me help.” Then, the feeding process would take twice as long because they don’t know where the diapers are, what to do with the bottle – are they holding it wrong or they’re not checking it.

So, for me it was easier to just almost like everybody just stay away while we get through this.

DORIS KICHEN: That’s okay too. Stay away.

SHELLY STEELY: Maybe not clear because I think people can get a little bit offended. Well, you don’t need my help or you don’t want my help. It’s like: “My 45 minutes of sleep that I’m getting in the day are really precious and you’re getting into the 20 of them so if you could all just leave.”

MISHELL RUDDEN: I think about that as super personality dependent too because I know that I’ve heard that from a lot of my friends that they really didn’t want the people coming in their home or even coming in the hospital. They were there. I was completely opposite. I was like: “My doors are open.” It also depends on who’s helping you too.

CHRISTINE STEWART-FITZGERALD: Absolutely.

MISHELL RUDDEN: My neighbours, my sisters and all these people that have been through it before – they know what I needed more than I knew what I needed. So, they were coming in with bags of groceries and they wouldn’t even ask: “What do you need to help with?

They’d go get the laundry out of the laundry basket and put it in the washing machine. I don’t think I could have survived.

CHRISTINE STEWART-FITZGERALD: You’re right, like having the help from other moms is just so welcoming. I know sometimes you either just kind of relax to go: “This is great.” Sometimes with other relatives, it’s just you. You feel a little bit guarded.

I say in my case: “I was to breast feeding and pumping, to be honest when my dad was there or my father-in-law was there.” I just maybe I’m more private but I just didn’t feel like whipping it out right there with these older men who really weren’t exposed to breastfeeding in their time either.

So, I felt like I have to kind of cover up in my own home. So, that kind of put a damper. So, I realize it’s maybe that something that you have to think about off. Let’s have some marry specific time frames for some people. Then other people like: “Hey, come on in.”

Now, if we realize that: “Hey, this is a lot of work and we would want to hire the big guns and bring in the postpartum doula.” So, when should expectant twin parents start their search for a postpartum doula like yourself?

DORIS KICHEN: Well, doulas with work with multiples book up quick. So, I had probably about month 4 to 6, have somebody in place because I get a lot of calls sooner than other doulas that aren’t doing twins; not everybody works with twins.

But, a doulas heart is really not about money; a doula’s heart is to make sure that every mom has a successful journey and to help her facilitate that. So, there are doulas that are in training that would love to come in and help. So, you just have to go on to maybe like dasc.org and get in type in your zip code and fide a doula that’s in training or donor.org.

Do you know anybody who’s looking to get their certification and when I started out being a doula, I did it for free. Then, I was charging maybe 10 hours an hour. You don’t have to have somebody come all night long.

If you get the support 4 or 5 hours during the day; moms can nap, can get a meal and get a shower; just taking that load off that second pair of hands that can be with your babies that understand their development, can make life so much easier.

CHRISTINE STEWART-FITZGERALD: Had I known that, I think we would have gotten a postpartum doula. I have to admit that I thought that it’s a luxury for people who have a lot of money and it’s in – we didn’t think we could afford that. That is so great to know that doulas are working on like sliding skills and doulas in training that really is accessible for everybody.

We’re going to wrap up and so thank so much Doris for joining us today. For more information about: “Creating a routine for your twins the first month” or for more information about any of our experts or panellists, visit the episode page on our website.

Now, this conversation does continue for members of our Twin Talks Club. After the show, Miss Kichen will talk about some of her favourite gadgets and gear for young babies. For more information about the Twin Talks Club, visit our website TwinTalks.com.

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Yes, downloading the episodes; this is really easy to do because I know at least personally with me, I don’t always get great reception with my phone either. So, when you log in to the app, you’re going to go to the episode’s page which is the main page on the app. You’ll notice next to each episode there’s a little star.

When you do have good reception, if you click on that little star – you’re going to see this little ring. It turns yellow in this little ring starts to form around the episode. When that ring is complete, so forms the circle around the star; that means that the episode is downloaded to your app.

So, regardless of what kind of internet signal you’re getting; that’s actually on your app. You can listen to it whenever you want. So, if you’re going to be travelling – you’re not going to get great reception – you may want to do this ahead of time to be able to listen to the episodes whenever you want. Thanks so much for your question.

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