Kaile Hunt 0:00
It's your little ones first Thanksgiving, whether they are three months old, six months old, or even approaching one year, we are chatting about the different food ideas you can give your baby on their first holiday, along with how to set food boundaries with how you choose to feed your little one. Thanks for joining us. This is Newbies.

Welcome to newbies. My name is Kaile Hunt, and I'll be your host today. If you haven't already, be sure to visit our website, at New mommy media.com and subscribe to our weekly newsletter, which keeps you updated on all the episodes we release each week. Another great way to stay updated is to hit that subscribe button in your podcast app. And if you're looking for a way to get even more involved with our show, then check out our online community. It's called Mighty moms. That's where we chat more about the topics discussed here on our show. And it's also an easy way to learn more about our recording, so you can join us live. So this is a fun holiday episode. I'm starting a new trend where we do babies first holiday, and this is Thanksgiving edition. So we have a veteran mom joining us who's already been on a podcast episode about military wives. Sarah, thank you for joining us today. Tell our listeners who didn't listen to the military episode, a little bit about your family, your kids age and where you guys are located.

Sarah Cotter 1:41
Thanks for having me. I have three kids who are seven, five and one, and we live in Idaho, and we are a military family that just got stationed out here.

Kaile Hunt 1:54
Fun. I love having you on first of all, because you are experienced. You have different kids, different ages, and so I and every kid is different, but I love that you're still walking this line and with your one year old. Is this his second Thanksgiving, or will this be his first?

Sarah Cotter 2:09
So this is technically his second. I believe he was about three months old last year.

Kaile Hunt 2:13
Sweet. This is so fun. So then he shouldn't have really been eating. No, he'll be eating this time around.

Sarah Cotter 2:20
Yes, he will be. And it's actually funny, because, you know, you're talking about boundaries, and he has food allergies. So this will be my first like real Thanksgiving, dealing with a child with food allergies.

Kaile Hunt 2:32
So interesting. I will definitely include some questions about that. Yay. Okay, well, thank you for joining us. And we also have another mom joining us today. Lizzie is a mom of two and has a very fun Instagram account sharing lifestyle tips, cooking tips and other fun mom content creation. Lizzie, thanks for joining us. Please tell us where you're located and more about your family.

Lissie 2:52
My name is Lissie. I am in Arizona, and I am mom of two. As you said, I have a two year old and a four year old. So I had them back to back, and that was really fun.

Lissie 3:04
But basically, like, my account is centered around healthy lifestyle, holistic living. I am, I guess you would call me crunchy. I guess you could call me a crunchy mom. We pretty much just stay away, like from food dyes and additives that are unnecessary. I really am passionate about cooking, so a lot of our lifestyle revolves around that. And I'm very close with my family. I, like I said, we live in Arizona, so I have a brother and a sister in San Diego, so I do travel to California quite often, and that's just a little bit about me.

Kaile Hunt
Yay. I'm excited to get the different perspectives, especially with You said you love to cook, so I'm assuming you cook some good Thanksgiving dishes that are baby friendly and family friendly. I love we'll get into incorporating all of that coming up. And then I'll also be chiming in and celebrating Thanksgiving with my under one year old. She will be one and a half this time around, but last year she was around eight months, so it was fun to see the first foods that I wanted to feed her for Thanksgiving. What I avoided anyway, we'll get into all of that coming up after the break.

Kaile Hunt 4:21
Today, we're discussing babies first Thanksgiving. So first question, I'm going to toss it over to Sarah, did any of your babies who wasn't able to eat food the first Thanksgiving? I know we talked about your son, he was around three months old. So did you choose to feed him anything when he was that young? Or did you really wait until this time around. So I definitely have always kind of lived by the waiting until about six months to feed the babies. I exclusively nursed all three of mine, and with Liam, him being three months, definitely just felt way too early for me.

Sarah Cotter 5:00
Like I said earlier, he does have food allergies, and so I wasn't feeding him any food directly, but I also had to be very careful about what I was eating, because even through nursing, those allergies could still be transferred to him. How interesting. I know it's common for babies to have, like, a milk allergy. Is that what Liam had, like, where you couldn't do any dairy at all. Yeah. So he is 14 months old, and I'm still nursing him. I haven't had dairy since he was eight weeks old, and he actually has an egg allergy as well. So I haven't had eggs either in almost a year. How wild? But I'm glad you found out his triggers. That's really interesting. Um, Lissie, what about you? Did they their first Thanksgiving? Did you give them food? Were they old enough to even eat food? Um, both of my kids were born in the summer, so they were both about five or six months around Thanksgiving. So we did give them. We did a baby led weaning in the beginning. But for Thanksgiving, I did give them puree. I did get them like, you know, just like taste testers, like a little bit of peas and mashed potatoes and just really, you know, watered down, and they really enjoyed it. Both of my kids are very food motivated. So from an early age,

Kaile Hunt 6:25
like just plain Turkey that I made. I didn't butter it up too much or season it too much, and then we did, I, like, mashed up some yams. I gave her what's it called stuffing, or dressing. That's part of, like people in the south call it dressing. I did give her some of that which she loved, but she was, she's really not a big eater. She didn't even like the mashed potatoes, which was kind of shocked about. But anyway, Sarah, you mentioned baby led weaning at all. I mean that you did baby led weaning. What are some good baby led weaning foods for Thanksgiving that your kids enjoyed when they were younger?

Sarah Cotter 6:57
think that my kids kind of enjoyed everything. Oh, good, really, as long as I could, like, cut it up, you know, to where they could pick it up and eat it without it being a choking hazard, then I gave it to them. So I think I want to say it was Ava was about six months old whenever she had her first Thanksgiving. So that's my now, five year old. And so we did try a lot of foods with her. So I remember giving her, like, sweet potatoes and green beans and just things that she could easily hold and like non and then my son, being about two years older than her, just thought it was the cutest thing that she could eat. So he was like, airplane mashed potatoes to her, how

Kaile Hunt 7:37
sweet is that? Oh, I love that. I love getting other kids involved. I feel like it makes one less stress for the parents and two. Yeah, it's just more fun. You know, like just getting more family centered involved. My next question, I guess, for Lizzie, is talk about puree? So you said a little bit that when your kids were young, you gave them purees. What are good foods that you would recommend to puree? Maybe bring to a family gathering. One that comes to mind is obviously sweet potatoes or yams. But what would be another good puree?

Lissie 8:05
Yeah, I so I would recommend peas. A pea puree was really that was like a pitter in my household. Loved peas. And then we did do the mashed potatoes. We did yams as well. And then, just in general, like, you know, I pretty much in the beginning, pureed, like anything I did a broccoli purees I did, like apples, like applesauce type thing, with a little bit of cinnamon and, you know, just simple, simple foods with, not, like, no seasonings, just themed, and then pureed.

Kaile Hunt 8:41
I love that. And one thing that I learned I spoke to a dietitian earlier this year is that, um, like, salt, right? Added salt. Like, use onion powder, not onion salt. Use garlic powder, not garlic salt. But another thing I learned is cinnamon and, like, turmeric and like, pumpkin pie spice is, like, totally okay. I don't know why I'm like, this time around much better. But I was, like, not seasoning anything. It was really silly. So anyone listening, yes, you can put cinnamon on your apples, and it's okay to puree it up. That's not added anything. It's a spice. Anyway. Disclaimer, I didn't know that. And so, yeah, I think, like, I remember making my daughter loved apples when she was younger, so like, I would make my own apple sauce. Like, that would be a really easy thing to puree and bring. If your kid loves that and like, add cinnamon and don't be like me who didn't add cinnamon. Very funny. All right. Well, we have more questions coming up, but first, let's take a quick break.

Well, welcome back. We are continuing our topic about babies first Thanksgiving and so this time, this little section, I kind of want to talk about boundaries, expectations, especially for anyone who hosts, or maybe not hosting, but has, you know family coming over, or even like going to family members. So first question, Sarah, I don't know, did you ever host Thanksgiving, or did you guys travel to your family members for Thanksgiving? So

Sarah Cotter 10:07
we kind of did a mixture. I think Oliver's first Thanksgiving, we actually went to our friends and brought food with us. For Ava's first, we just kind of hung out at home and did our own thing. And for Liam's first we hosted and had friends over.

Kaile Hunt 10:23
I guess follow up is when you were with different people, right? Like, not close friends and family, but like, you know, like a mix of people. How, like, what was your expectations? Were you nervous at all for baby led, weaning and maybe, like, the sly comments you might get, or were you kind of confident enough to be like, this is how I'm gonna do things.

Speaker 1 10:41
So I will say that whenever we had other people with us, they all had young kids of their own, or babies of their own, and they also were all in the military realm. So, like, I don't think I ever felt nervous about anything, and I I had very good trust with all of those people that, like, people weren't gonna randomly just try to feed my baby something. So I never really had to run into that with like, family members or anything that's

Kaile Hunt 11:08
good. Lizzy, what about you? Did you ever did you you guys host Thanksgiving? Do you guys travel? And then, what were your like expectations for your kids first couple of Thanksgivings?

Lissie 11:18
Yeah, so in the beginning with my first we still lived really close to my mom and dad and my extended family, which is back in Chicago, so we did Thanksgiving with them the first couple of years. And as far as boundaries go, I definitely I'm very comfortable with confrontation. I'm just standing up for what I believe in. So everyone is very aware of that and respected everything. There were a couple moments where, you know, they'd be like, oh, like, give the baby water or something crazy. And, like, no, the baby's okay. Like, I had it, like, we're good, but, you know, yeah, I did have to kind of voice what we were going to be feeding our kid, what we weren't. Because there's just a lot of different and especially with my first baby, because I was just, like, by the book, I'm like, reading like, articles and like, you know, just making sure that I have a positive eating environment for her. And I was a little bit more I get stringent with everything with her as well. So I've never really ran into any boundary crossing, anything like that. It was always very positive. And I think people were just interested more so in what we were doing. I

Kaile Hunt 12:35
love that. Yeah, I would agree. I hosted Thanksgiving all three years that I was in Hawaii, but only one of them. I had a baby, and she was eight months old, and honestly, I didn't have to set too many boundaries. It was really easy. I made her plate, you know? I sat by her in the hind chair, I fed her, and kept feeding her what she liked, what she didn't like. And so that was really easy. The one thing I do have to say, and it's not really like a feeding boundary, but I'm very much into baby led weaning and them getting messy. Like, surprisingly, mess does not bother me. Like, her whole face is messy, her hands, and that doesn't bother me. It does bother my mom. And so she always wanted to, like, clean her up, which is okay, but I'm like, no, no. Like, I just don't want to continue cleaning her up. Like, it's fine, we'll wipe her down in the end. And so that's something. But again, it's just one quick little snippet. And you know, my mom was like, Yeah, sure, it's all good, you know. So thankfully, I didn't have any to set any strict boundaries, which was good. I know some people kind of have to. And so next question for Sarah is, tips. So now you have a child with an allergy, so what are some tips that you think other moms maybe who have kids with allergies, for boundary setting, as far as not feeding another person's kid food, if that makes sense, like, I would never feed your kids something without your permission, but you don't know people do all the time anyway. So what are some tips you have that maybe some moms are nervous about that, that you can share?

Sarah Cotter 13:58
I think the most important thing is to, like, just remember that you are the advocate for your child, and especially with, like, you know, Liam is 14 months old, so he's just so young he can't advocate for himself and say, Hey, I have a dairy allergy, or, Hey, I have an egg allergy. Um, and that's I would say. I'm not very confrontational with stuff, and I'm not typically very good at being like, no, don't do this. But I've had to learn to, like, step up and like, you know, tell people like, Hey, are you sure it's dairy free? And like, I have to remind people, butter is dairy. People seem to forget that. And so it's like, I've even had to tell someone like, do you mind if I read the ingredient list, and that feels so awkward for me, but because I almost feel like weirdly intrusive, or feel like I'm like, telling someone I don't believe them, yeah, but there's been times where I'll look in the ingredient list, I'm like, Hey, I'm sorry this is actually dairy, or this actually has I get it, and I'm so thankful that I do, because I you. Yeah, I have to advocate so that he doesn't have an allergic reaction. And so I think it's just important that even if you feel uncomfortable, you really put yourself out there and remember like you're doing it for your kid. You're not doing it to be rude, but you have to do what is best for your child.

Kaile Hunt 15:17
I so agree, Lisa, do you have anything else to add, especially with how you said earlier that you guys really try to avoid extra food dyes and preservatives. So what are some tips you have for moms who are kind of crunchy, you know, and they don't want to give their kid the cranberry sauce from the can. They would rather, you know, have the cranberries, homemade, without the added sugar. What would be your tips for that? Yeah,

Lissie 15:37
so my tips are, well, first of all, I don't ever want to, like, box myself in, and I never want to promote that to anyone else, especially for holidays. You know, if you want to eat different things that you don't normally have, don't put that extra pressure on yourself, especially if you're going to somebody else's Thanksgiving, you're going to eat things that you possibly wouldn't eat at home every day. And that's okay, and I'm okay with that as well. I kind of like make sure to think about that before I go places, because obviously not everyone is going to have the same diet and, you know, diet restrictions, etc. Luckily, I don't have any allergies. My kids don't have any allergies. So for us, while I do hold onto my boundaries. I also leave wiggle room for, you know, if they want, you know, to try a different dessert or, you know, just something different for the holidays. But in general, I do voice when I meet new parents or new friends. Most parents are very open, and welcome to you letting them know what your kid does and does not eat. I've actually found, like, you know, even our friends will have like, different types of snacks for the kids or just and it doesn't have to be anything crazy, you know, like, just fruit instead of, you know, having like, random fruit snacks. So most people are very accommodating, and we're, you know, parents, so we kind of support each other, and we're not, like, trying to make each other feel weird about each other's eating habits.

Kaile Hunt 17:03
I so agree. I also feel like I'll talk to like, new moms, or moms of, like, young toddlers, and they'll be like, Oh no. Like, my kid eats this snack, and I'm like, ooh, where'd you get that? Like, tell me the ingredients. Like, I want to know, you know, like, Is it really good? Like, I'll start buying it for my daughter. I so agree. I do love, like, the little mom communities where, like, we kind of swap our ideas, and obviously we don't agree with everything, but I love when a mom is like, yeah, I really am liking these little melt teas that have like, four ingredients, rather than, you don't even mean something else. And I'm like, Heck, yeah, I'll start buying that from Costco. I think it's super great, which is good, awesome, yay. Well, we have more questions coming up, but first we will take another break.

Welcome back to newbies. We are continuing our topic on babies first Thanksgiving. So this is more of like a food ish type question for anyone who, like, goes hosting Thanksgiving or like you guys are seasoned moms, maybe you can share some tips with like, some of the favorites your kids have ate. But first question Lizzy is, is it worth it to prepare food beforehand? So let's say you are going somewhere for Thanksgiving. Do you think it's worth it struggling with kids, right? Because I feel like once you become a mom, your task like quadruple right? It's no longer just getting ready and having your husband get ready. It's like getting ready, husband ready, packing the diaper bag, getting your kids ready. Anyway. Is it worth it to prepare food like the night before, or maybe even like two days before, if you are going out to a Thanksgiving gathering, do you think that makes day of Thanksgiving easier?

Lissie 18:39
Absolutely, yes, 100% I would recommend to have everything done beforehand. That's usually what I do. Whenever we go anywhere we're going to, like a gathering, and I'm bringing a plate of food or anything, I will always make sure that I have that done already, if possible, or prepped. If it's something that needs to be fresh, at least, I will have everything prepped, and that way, like, you know, my husband can watch the kids in the morning, and I get whatever I need to get ready, and there's just less to do. And that's also what I mean by like, kind of leaving wiggle room for things where, like, I will bring snacks for my kids if we're going out, just in case there is, like, a food that they're not familiar with, or they're they that I don't want them to eat. But in general, you know, I do leave that wiggle room just so that I don't have that stress, and I don't have to bring, like, an extra lunch bag with me, because, you know, the less bags you bring, the better, because you already have to bring everything else with you. As a parent,

Kaile Hunt 19:39
most definitely, and I will have to say, as kids get older, it does get better and it does get lighter, right? You're not bringing like 12 diapers, you know, like a three month old, but when you have like a nine month old, you're bringing like four you're like, you're fine. Oh my gosh, yes, bringing me back. Yes. Sarah, what about you? Do you usually prepare food before? Hand, even if you're hosting, I guess, whether you're hosting or whether you're going places, usually prepare beforehand. And do you find doing that? Is that like, easier, you know, for mom day of Thanksgiving? Yeah.

Sarah Cotter 20:10
I mean, my answer is very similar. It is absolutely um, because even just for the context of you have one kid, or you have three kids, no matter what, having young kids, you're going to be busy. And so just to like, relieve some of the stress, I will pre prep whatever I can in the days leading up to Thanksgiving. That way, whether we're staying home, doing our own thing, or we're going somewhere, I'm not super stressed the day of and so I can spend time with a family, or if there is some kind of, like chaotic thing that happens, at least, I'm already ready. I'm something that I'm actually planning. We're going out of town and going to family for the first time, and, man, like 10 years for Thanksgiving this year. And so something that I will be doing is preparing at least three or four dairy free, egg free dishes that I will absolutely know are like, perfectly okay, I'm gonna make a vegan pumpkin pie, and I'm gonna prep those ahead of time, just so that one, I can help everybody else with what they need. But two, that way, there's also no cross contamination whenever everyone's trying to cook. So I definitely think that it is useful in so many different aspects, absolutely,

Kaile Hunt 21:26
especially if your little one has some sort of, like fooded version. I think that's super, super smart. So now fun topic, let's talk about favorite foods your little ones ate. I'll go first. My daughter absolutely loved the sweet potatoes. She loved the turkey. She's always been a meat eater, like she's just always loved meat, and she loved deviled eggs. Was another one I'm trying to remember, and the stuffing. And, like I said, she wasn't a big fan of mashed potatoes, but, and then I think I gave her, like, regular, like, pumpkin puree. I didn't give her pumpkin pie, but I did give her pumpkin puree, and that was a hit for a little bit too. Um, Lizzie, I'll toss it to you. What are some foods that your little ones ate? And I love that you guys have more than one kid, because you can compare the two. But what are some foods that, um, your kids loved?

Lissie 22:12
Um, yeah, so my kids actually did love the mashed potatoes. So that was like a hitter that it still is to this day. That's good foods any kind of potato, really, they're potato kids, and then the peas. Peas were, like, my son's, he's the youngest. He's two, and that was, like, his favorite food for almost, like a year. Like he loved them even after the puree, like he would eat, like, even, I mean, honestly till now, like he really loves peas, which I think, like some people think, is like, so strange, because they're like, why I like peas? Yeah, they're like, they're very yummy, non offensive food, you know, flavorful, but you can put a little salt, little pepper on them, literally, yeah,

Sarah Cotter 22:55
that's one of my favorite, my baby's favorite foods.

Kaile Hunt 22:58
How funny.

Sarah Cotter 22:59
Loves peas, awesome.

Kaile Hunt 23:01
Sounds fun? I absolutely love that. Sarah, what about you? I love again, that you have three kids, so you can talk about if they've loved the same things, if they love different things, what are some good Thanksgiving foods? I

Sarah Cotter 23:13
just think it's so funny, because I think all three of my kids are just foodies. They don't really seem to like have food that they don't like. So they definitely always really, really enjoyed the sweet potatoes and the turkey mashed potatoes, all of that. And then a different food that most people probably don't have at their Thanksgiving meal is we would always have, like, poke and daughter love, okay, so, oh yeah,

Kaile Hunt 23:42
fun. Oh, I'm gonna be missing that

Sarah Cotter 23:44
same about it. It's fine. Um,

Kaile Hunt 23:49
what are since you guys both kind of talked about baby led weaning, what are some foods that are not typically safe for baby led weaning? And like, I'll go first, like, I'm thinking of like, whole cranberries that aren't mashed up. You know what I mean? Could be a choking hazard, I know, depending on the age. And again, we are not experts. I'm not a dietitian here, but I have no depending on the age you're supposed to not chop up like meat, you know, that way a kid can, like, grab it and not on it, and not be too small. But what are some other foods that you guys can think off the top of your head, that's maybe not baby led, meaning, save Sarah. I'll pass it over to you first.

Sarah Cotter 24:26
It's funny because you say my name and I'm like, I actually probably am not the best to answer this, because I don't think I followed any of the rules. Immediately that comes to mind is things like grapes and stuff. I'm almost really hesitant with stuff like that, but that was never really like a Thanksgiving staple for me. Um, yeah, just anything that they could easily choke on. You definitely want it to be either really small pieces or bigger pieces, kind of depending on the age. Like, yeah, what my six month old could have my 12 month old, I. Like, or what? My six month old can't have. My 12 month old, can you

Kaile Hunt 25:04
know? Yeah, let's see. What about you? Can you think of anything? And I know even thinking like, hard carrots wouldn't work. I think they're supposed to be like, soft and boiled. But anyway, any other comes to mind,

Lissie 25:15
you know what? Yeah, I have a big one, and I hope people hear this one, because good. This one the hard way. I make bread a lot at home, so bread is a big one where I'd say, like, wait a little bit, especially depending on which type of bread it is, I make sourdough. And it was my son was chewing on a piece of sourdough, and it was just too thick, like the outer the coating on it, it's too thick, and it's actually kind of slick as well. So luckily, like he he did, it did get stuck in his throat, and I was able to get it out because it was sticking out. Um, but that was the one, really, one of the only, like baby led weaning scares that I've had, and that was just because I, you know, I gave him bread and I thought it would be safe. He liked it, but it just was, it's too crumbly, you know, and, like, it's, it's a weird food for them to eat very young, like, when, before they get teeth and stuff. Yeah,

Kaile Hunt 26:14
no, I'm glad you mentioned that definitely could be scary. And I know when I was doing baby led weaning, there's a difference between gagging and choking, and I think that's important to look up. I'm just going to leave it there, because I'm not an expert, but yes, it's very important. There's a big difference between gagging, which kids do, it's a natural function, and choking, which is kind of scary. So I'm glad you noticed your kid was choking and not just gagging, and you were able to be right there, which is good, cool. Well, our last question is, how to involve an under one year old in thanksgiving traditions? I'll go first. We took a ton of photos that was super fun because that one, they can't really talk that much yet, you know, there's still. Some of them are learning to walk still, you know, and so it's kind of hard to include them. So a lot of photos, is what I did. Obviously, as you know, the years go on, it'll get better. But what are some fun Thanksgiving traditions, or, I don't know, family things you can think of to make it special, to document babies first Thanksgiving, Lizzie, I'll toss it to you first.

Lissie 27:14
Yeah, so one that's very young, like you said, a lot of pictures. That's what we did as well. With both of my kids, I do like to include them in my cooking, because that's where I'm at. So they want to be there too. I have my four year old help me with everything I that's how I grew up as well. So like this year, I'm making tamales for Thanksgiving instead of a turkey, and my daughter will be in the kitchen, helping me. And that is just one way that I really, you know, get them involved in the traditions. And, you know, we document with pictures, because I want be, I want to be able to show these pictures to them when they're older, and, you know, like, hey, look like, this is our tradition, and you've been doing it since you were a baby. I love

Unknown Speaker 28:00
that. Oh, Sarah,

Kaile Hunt 28:01
what about you? What are some traditions you can involve the whole family, including a under one year old?

Sarah Cotter 28:07
Yeah. So I definitely agree with taking lots of photos. I definitely think that every time that I have a baby, it's their first holiday, or like, first Thanksgiving, I always dress them up with, like, some kind of cute Turkey outfit, because, you know, you have to. And then we like to watch the Macy's Day Parade every year, and oh my goodness, yeah, we just, we put that on. The kids think it's fun. And we all kind of just hang out and watch it. And just kind of have the kids play downstairs. If they want to help me in the kitchen, they kitchen they can, or if they just want to play toys while I'm like, in the kitchen, but we're all still together, you know, and I think that's the main thing that we try to get across to our kids, is just, it's about family time, and about just spending time with your loved ones. And kind of, like you said earlier, like just sitting the high chair next to you at the table like that helps make them feel involved when they're little. I

Kaile Hunt 29:03
know I love that, yay. Well, thank you both for joining. I'm super excited. This is a fun one. Hopefully it'll ease the stress of new mothers, because Thanksgiving is super fun. I'm a big foodie. I love to eat, and I think you guys both said some really great tips about food and family time, so yay. Thanks you guys both for joining

Lissie 29:24
Thank you for having us.

Sarah Cotter 29:25
Yeah, absolutely. Thank you well.

Kaile Hunt 29:28
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