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Colic: Why Is My Baby Crying Constantly?

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KRISTEN STRATTON: Your new baby is here. At first she was sweet and slept well. Now, she just cries and cries and cries. It feels like nothing helps her and you’re having a hard time coping too. Could this be colic? What are the common symptoms and what causes it? You’re listening to Newbies.

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KRISTEN STRATTON: Welcome to Newbies. Newbies is your online, on-the-go support group, guiding new mothers through their baby’s first year. I’m your host, Kristen Stratton. I’m also a Certified Birth Doula, Postpartum Doula and owner of In Due Season Doula Services. If you haven’t already, be sure to visit our website at www.newmommymedia.com and subscribe to our weekly newsletter. You could also subscribe to our show through iTunes, so you automatically get new episodes when they’re released. Sunny’s here to tell us about other ways you can participate in our new show.

SUNNY GAULT: So we’re recording our show a little bit differently. You guys may notice a little, I don’t know, maybe a difference in some of the audios and stuff and so I wanted to kind of explain that a little bit and then tell you how that benefits you. Instead of recording in a studio type of environment which is what we’ve done for over the past few years, we’re now all recording from our own home computers. So what does that mean for you guys? It means that it is now easier than ever to get involved with Newbies and we specifically made this format change because we wanted it to be as easy as possible for parents to participate in our shows. Now, all you need is your computer and you need a good Internet browser and a pretty good Internet speed and if you have those three things then you’re able to join our shows and to participate in these conversations. So the best way for you to get involved and let us know that you want to be involved with Newbies is to first go on our website at www.newmommymedia.com and there are some banners or some information up there that you should notice right away that talks about how parents can get involved. If you click on one of those banners that will take you to an online form that you fill up really quickly and also there are some other linkson the page.
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KRISTEN STRATTON: Today on Newbies we’re going to be doing an app review and today the app is called The Wonder Weeks and it’s an app that you can download on iTunes or Android in their marketplace. It’s basically for the first twenty months of your child’s life. So you can look up when your baby is going to have some sort of what they call mental leaps, so big developmental milestone in terms of when they start noticing things more or they’re just staring at the wall and you wonder “what are they looking at?” Or periods of fussiness where you’re not quite sure, you know, maybe “what is wrong with my baby?”

In reality it’s because they are just developing, their brain is doing a lot of work, you know maybe they’re overstimulated because they have all the stuff that they’re noticing when they start making all those cute little grunts and noises, I’m going to explain that typically starts happening. So, anyway, if you go ahead and download this,I have a couple of clients that use it and it’s really helpful to them because especially if you’re breastfeeding, you’re just wondering “okay, why is my baby constantly at the breast? I can’t get a break”. It’s kind of sometimes reassuring to look at this app and go “okay, there’s the light at the end of the tunnel, this is a typical milestone around eight weeks. Okay. So I understand what my baby’s doing, I understand why my baby wants to be with me at all times, and just constantly nursing or my baby is just staring at the walls for hours on end”. So, anyway, what do you think about this, Sunny?

SUNNY GAULT: I had a chance to download this and just check it out initially. My kids are a little bit older than what this app, you know, it’s really helpful for, but I was thinking back to…So, I’ve got four kids and my youngest two are twins and they’re about two and a half years old. And I was thinking back to their birth and how they came out at as 35 week-ers. I always had a lot of questions about them developmentally, not only because they were 35 week-ers but because I heard that twins develop a little bit differently and they may be a little bit behind because they’re so concentrated on each other that they may not be developing at the same rates as the other kids. So I just had a lot of different questions about it and I wish something like this was available to be able to kind of clarify some stuff for me.

One of the things I noticed right away is when I downloaded the app, it asked you to enter your kids’ information and it doesn’t go with their age, it actually asks for their due date. So, after your baby is, I mean you know you talk about babies that have already been born and I question that at first like “why are you asking for a due date?” But then it kind of explained that that’s what they really measuring everything by. So it’s not just because, I mean, what babies are born at 40 weeks? There are a lot of babies that are not born at 40 weeks, right, and including my thirty-five week-ers. And so…

KRISTEN STRATTON: And my thirty-three week-ers.

SUNNY GAULT: Including…Yeah. Your baby is made up before my babies. So, yeah, I think it could have been really helpful for me and for other parents that you just question that and I like the fact that it has some reminders on here that it can remind you when a “leap period” is coming up so you can kind of prepare yourself for it. Of course not all babies are created equal, right? They’re not all going to follow what the app says, but I still think it’s helpful. It’s kind of have the heads up as to you know what to expect. And I really like pushy notifications because you’re telling me something as opposed to me having to go out and find the information which I would probably forget to do. So, it’s nice…

KRISTEN STRATTON: Exactly. You know, I wish I had this when you know, even my youngest is almost three and this didn’t exist, but I wish it had, so…And I agree with you. The pushy notifications especially when you’re a new mom are really helpful because you’re too tired to even remember that you have the app…

SUNNY GAULT: Right. Right. It’s true.

KRISTEN STRATTON: So, a little notification on your screen every morning, that’s helpful.

SUNNY GAULT: Absolutely.

KRISTEN STRATTON: So this app is $1.99. If you want more information about this app, you can go to our website at www.newmommymedia.com and we’ll post it upthere so you can take a look.

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KRISTEN STRATTON: Today on Newbies we’re discussing colic. What is it? And what does it mean and how can you help your baby feel better? Our expert today is Doctor Tara Zandvliet who is board certified in three separate specialities: pediatrics, internal medicine and integrated holistic medicine. Thank you so much for joining us, Doctor Z. Welcome to the show.

DOCTOR TARA ZANDVLIET: Thank you.

KRISTEN STRATTON: Doctor Zandvliet, what is colic and what are the symptoms associated with it?

DOCTOR TARA ZANDVLIET: Colic is basically crying more than normal. So, what’s normal? Normal is about an hour and a half of crying a day for a new baby under about four or five months old. And colic is diagnosed as just excess crying so about three hours a day or more, it’s usually episodic, so it tends to come and go, it’s pretty intense. If anyone has ever had a baby with colic, it is quite the intense experience and it is for more than three days a week for three weeks or more and the kids are otherwise healthy. It happens, it starts around two weeks old, so it seems early, but it starts around two or three weeks old and it can go all the way up to about four months. So, that is basically just excess crying.

KRISTEN STRATTON: What causes colic?

DOCTOR TARA ZANDVLIET: So there’s the 10 million dollar question. Through the ages colic has been thought to be many different causes. I’ll kind of go through them because as with almost everything in life, the answer is all of the above, pick D whenever possible. It has started, everyone thought it was gas and that is still part of it, is when the kids swallow too much air when they’re nursing or on the bottle and it just doesn’t get out. So, they just can’t burp well, they can’t burp well, although most babies can do those beautifully, but that was the first initial kind of thought. Then we moved into thinking it was allergies to what, not an allergy so much as a reaction to what mom was eating. So if anyone has ever had a large quantity of broccoli and then nursed, the baby definitely has some different gut.

KRISTEN STRATTON: Oh, yes.

DOCTOR TARA ZANDVLIET: Motility, shall we say. Yes.So what we eat, as moms, definitely affects the guts of our kids. So, again in many cases probably up to about 20% of colic at least, I think it possibly is more we have, something mom is eating is the cause. We definitely know that smoking or nicotine, patches of nicotine gum or vaping, any of that stuff with nicotine definitely causes colic. So that’s one thing. Also caffeine and then a big one is mom drinking any milk products or dairy, occasionally to be a random thing like soy or it’ll be something like all of the night shades, like green peppers and thing like that.

KRISTEN STRATTON: Or the Ben and Jerry’s.

DOCTOR TARA ZANDVLIET: Or the Ben and Jerry’s. I’m telling you that that dairy can really do yeah. That’s a big one and another one is actually still very worth looking into when your child has colic because if you can eliminate colicyou’re going to justhave a much happier experience.

KRISTEN STRATTON: What about gluten? I heard gluten too. What’s your opinion on that one?

DOCTOR TARA ZANDVLIET: So, gluten can be one of those things that in an individual mom baby pairing can definitely cause a problem. Not in everyone, it’s not like the gluten starts like “ugh, it’s gluten”. If it were, then we wouldn’t be having this conversation. We just say “well, don’t include it”. So it is one of the ones. Yeah. The big five. There are more, I know, but the big five of allergies are usually soy, corn, dairy, nuts and wheat, gluten. Those are big five things that generally cause this problem.

KRISTEN STRATTON: And are there any things that can look like colic but are really another issue?

DOCTOR TARA ZANDVLIET: There are, but I’m going to get to it in a second. There are two other things recently that are really looking like a bigger cause of colic. One is neurologic. I mean when we think about the brain, that’s where all the nerves are, right? Well, the second place we have a huge number of nerves is in the intestines. So the stomach and the intestines when the peristalsis so the nerves creating the contractions that move the food all the way through, when they’re not time dried, and you know these new-borns, they’re still getting everything right, they’re still learning, their bodies are still learning and they’re immature, they’re technically still in their fourth trimester of pregnancy, they’re still sort of shouldn’t be born yet, but they are too big, so neurologically they might be just overstimulated. Right? Especially that’s maybe why it happens in the late afternoons, so many people say that if we can calm them down, give them less stimulation, it might work.

I was thinking of it as it is…if you go to the Mall at Christmas time, and the bells are ringing and all the kids are there screaming and there are lights everywhere, I mean after a while you get a headache, it’s just too much. I kind of think like that, that you’ve got this new-born, and there’s stuff to learn everywhere, their eyes are wide open, they’re just sucking in it like a sponge and breezing and they go “okay, enough”. But they’re not quite sleepy enough to go to sleep. And then the last one is pretty recent stuff, the microbiome so basically all those good bacteria in our gut. Babies are more than any, they suck it in from mom and that’s why we have a lot of lactobacillus in our vaginas and if you don’t give birth vaginally then you can’t take care of that.

KRISTEN STRATTON: And we talked about that in another episode.

DOCTOR TARA ZANDVLIET: Yes, we did. And it works beautifully. And so they get lactobacillus from us so they can digest the milk and if you don’t have enough or it’s a little slow in establishing a great population of that bacteria in your gut, they think it may actually cause some pain so that the baby can’t really digest the milk and that would certainly explain why it would be crying. So those are the big causes.

KRISTEN STRATTON: And you’re going to touch on some things that can look like colic, but really might be another cause. Can you touch on that a little bit?

DOCTOR TARA ZANDVLIET: Yeah. Since colic is kind of the definition it’s just excess crying, most things that are colic will have, you know, not most, a lot of things that are colic do actually have a cause, which is for example if the baby is reacting to something in the milk. So if mom is eating something that’s coming through in the milk and they have a sensitivity to it, you know, there’s the cause and then you just eliminate andyou basically cure it. In terms of anything that causes belly pain can look like colic and the key though is usually those things don’t last more than three weeks. Occasionally they do, so for example reflux, gastroesophageal reflux. So when that stomach acid just comes back up into their oesophagus they’re happy spitters who just puke all the time in large amounts and they are happy as they’re currently doing so, you do not have to worry about them, they’re not so much anyway, they’re not in pain, they’re not causing damage, but the ones who really have the acid come up, it hurts. So they cry. And it tends to be in the late afternoons as well. So gastroesophageal reflux is important to rule out, definitely.

Milk allergy, cows’ milk allergy. This is a true allergy, not a sensitivity to the cows’ milk mom is eating, this is true milk allergy. Were they actually allergic to mom’s milk too? And that could be very dangerous because they start bleeding. So if you ever get, I mean we’re going to touch on that later with when you go and see the doctor, well if there’s blood in your kids’ stool, in their poopy diapers, you should be coming in, because milk allergy, that’s the number one cause of that, that can cause colic, too. Other things like anal fissures, you know, things where they’ve got pain for some other reason. They’ve got a little diaper rash or they’ve got an anal fissure. One big when I saw once when I was in training was there was a kid who had on his little toes a hem. Mom’s hair was wrapped around his pinkie toe, and it was screaming, just screaming and nothing would calm him down. Mom was like “oh, it must be colic” and it turned out he was just really hurt and so the kiddo was in his little footy slippers, no one ever noticed until finally she changed his diaper and she’s like “why is his toe really purple?”And she just got the hair off and all of the sudden he stopped.That’s another reason why we define colic at three weeks generally. So we know it’s not something temporary.

KRISTEN STRATTON: Those hairs turn our kids are no joke. I have a brother. Yeah. I have a brother that is a nurse in the emergency room and said actually that is a really common thing for people coming for it.

DOCTOR TARA ZANDVLIET: Yeah.

KRISTEN STRATTON: And also moms with boys, make sure you check their penises because, yeah, you’ve got to, you don’t want to a hair wrapped around that.

DOCTOR TARA ZANDVLIET: Yes. Exactly! Exactly! Definitely!

KRISTEN STRATTON: So, I have three children, six, four and two, two and a half. All three had colic for some period of time, my first two, it wasn’t terrible. Actually maybe in retrospective look back and it wasn’t too terrible in comparison to colic with my third. But I think when, with my daughter it was probably about you know, maybe four to six weeks that she did the crying, excess crying for hours on end and you know, eventually outgrew,but it was fine. And then, my second child, my first son, he probably was colic for about two to four months, like I said my mommy brain makes me forget things because that’s how your body tries to get you pregnant again, it makes you forget…

DOCTOR TARA ZANDVLIET: Right.

KRISTEN STRATTON: It makes you forget how hard things were, but very vividly in my mind was with my third. And he actually was “colic”, you know, I don’t know where the overlap was, but he screamed for eight months. And I know that that’s unusual, but when we went to the pediatrician, I said you know, “he’s still crying like three to six hours a day, four to five days out of the week”. You know, I did everything the doctor talked about, I didthe elimination diet because I was breast feeding. I got rid of the dairy, although that was really sad, I loved my Ben and Jerry’s.

But I even started eliminating gluten because I didn’t know what else to do. I do things that there was a reduction after we got rid of citrus actually was a trigger for him. I was really trying to eat healthy and I was eating a lot of oranges and that was kind of a trigger, dairy definitely was an issue. But even after doing that he was still having a hard time, and then now in retrospect he is almost three and he actually has a sensory processing disorder and I wonder I’m like “hum”, now I wonder if that maybe was a contributing factor because I know eight months is really long to be colic.

So I just think that that was kind of a unique experience on our part, but it definitely was trying. And we had a neighbour where we lived in a duplex, because my husband was in the Marin Corp and we lived in a military house at the time and so we shared a wall on either side and I remember one of my neighbours texting me, you know,“do you need help, do you want me to come over?” Because she could hear him screaming through the walls. It was definitely one of our more challenging times as parents.
When we come back we will continue our discussion about possible remedies for colic as well as information about developmental milestones and parenting styles which may affect how our baby cries. We will be right back.

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KRISTEN STRATTON: Welcome back to the show. We’re talking with Doctor Tara Zandvliet about the mysterious colic and how to help our baby feel better. Doctor Z, what are some of the remedies for colic?

DOCTOR TARA ZANDVLIET: So, if you want actual remedies, there are quite a few on the market as well as in your cabinet. Many of you have heard of Grape water, it works beautifully, usually it has fennel in it. Fennel oil is beautiful as well, calms everything down, it’s again working on the neurologic side of colic and calms all the spasms in the intestines.
If they have a lot of gas, which after crying for three to six hours, they will definitely have a lot of gas because they’re swallowing air like crazy. The Simethicone drops, they’re over the counter, antigas drops, those work pretty decently as well. There is camomile tea, which is very popular in Mexico [foreign language]. I you ever hear that, every grandma and great-grandma around will tell you to use that and it does work. It does, it does work. Every pediatrician will tell you “don’t use it”, and here’s the reason. If you use more than about an ounce or two, then all of the sudden your child is not getting milk and so they don’t get their sodium and their potassium and all this and that can be very dangerous. So most of us have seen a case where a child had such horrible colic that they were crying for twelve hours straight and grandma just shot like eight ounces of camomile on him and they don’t do well with that.
So if you use camomile tea it’s very very helpful, but only about an ounce at a time for sure, maybe two ounces in 24 hours would be max. The other big thing that works is, I don’t know if you’ve ever read the book or seen anything about The Happiest Baby In The Block. It’s again focusing on the neurologic side of things and that one, you can look it up and stuff, but it’s basically focusing on the five S-s, basically shushing your baby every, can I say, every I don’t know…

But anyway most societies have some sort of shushy sound for their babies, hush little baby, don’t say a word, you know, so that’s a hushy sound. Some sort of a shushy sound. And you can get that with noise makers, you can do it yourself, you can use it with ocean sounds, and if you’re stuck somewhat, a vacuum cleaner, just turned on in the corner works great. And you get a really clean section of carpet in the corner. The other thing is swaddling, if they’re young enough to swaddle, some of them are a little bit older. Another one is putting some pressure on that stomach to kind of encourage the burps, so holding them in your arms, face down, you know, almost like a football thing, or way up high on your shoulder where your shoulder is kind of on your belly a little bit, make sure you hold it on your legs, also some sort of on their side, sleeping on their side, if you can get them on their side, that helps. And then, swinging, everyone knows with those swings and some sort of sucking, so this is when they’re on …they burp all the time and sometimes they get so much milk they puke it back out, but that’s okay, it’s an automatic reject factor, it’s okay. And sometimes pacifiers do work, I mean they’re not evil, they’re sometimes very well used. So those are good ones.
I’ll give you a personal thing. Both my kids had some colic, my son worse, and he just wanted us to leave him the heck alone. And so he didn’t want to be swaddled, he didn’t want to be shushed, he didn’t want to be swung or held, he got worse and worse and worse, until one day I just kind of, “I’m done”, you know. And I put him down on a blanket on the floor and I walked away to just get a moment, and he shut up and he stayed shut up. And he just was staring at these shadows on the wall from the window. And he was just, it like zoned him out. And all of the sudden he was just chill for a good half an hour, forty minutes, something like that. And he cried a little, and nursed and he was kind of a little back into his regular rhythm. So, there are a lot of different things that you can use, but that does work a lot.

KRISTEN STRATTON: Yeah. You have touched on a couple of that we personally, I mean we tried like everything, but we ended up bringing us some relief. With our first two was a warm bath.

DOCTOR TARA ZANDVLIET: Oh, yeah. That works. Yeah.

KRISTEN STRATTON: Yeah. Just giving them, just soothing water, I put a wash warm cloth on their tummies so that they didn’t get cold and just keep pouring a lot of warm water on that wash cloth and that was helpful, sometimes just going outside. I always tell people that change of scenery sometimes can just distract them enough where they just stop crying and that’s also helpful for the parent’s sanity and it is intense, it’s not just like, you know, wimpy fussy crying, it is intense.

DOCTOR TARA ZANDVLIET: It’s not fussy. No.

KRISTEN STRATTON: It is like intense, you know, long bursting crying. And then with my third I was not as crunchy as I am now, but what I had…one of my friends who was a distributor for an Essentials company and one of their blends was to help with digestive issues. So I diluted that in some coconut oil and I rubbed that on his tummy and that actually helped. And this was like, you know, between the seventh and eighth mark where I was just like ready to commit myself to an institution, because I just couldn’t handle it anymore.

DOCTOR TARA ZANDVLIET: No. Essential oil is great.

KRISTEN STRATTON: Yeah. I think that really helped him, I noticed a huge difference. And now I’m a believer. I’m convinced. But I do want to also say because it is really intense and it is hard to sometimes especially if you are the primary caretaker and maybe your partner’s at work or you don’t have a lot of family around, like in our case we didn’t have a lot of family because we’re military, I was able to come over, you know, at a moments’ notice and we didn’t have that. So like Doctor Z you were saying, you know, you reach your limit, you’re like “ugh, I’m done”, you don’t want to get to that point where you snap and so if you feel like you’re on the edge, you really can just put your baby down in a safe place on the floor. It’s great because, you know, they’re not going to fall, they’re probably not rolling yet, or if they are, they’re not going to roll in a dangerous place and then just walk away. Give yourself five minutes, go in the bathroom, count to ten, go and wash some dishes so that you know that they’re nearby and safe, but just do something so you can just recollect yourself so that you don’t get to the place where you know, you’re just going to lose it. Because it is very intense. Or call somebody and ask for help. I know that’s hard for some of us to do, but we’re not super moms, we don’t have to be and asking for help sometimes is the right thing to do.

DOCTOR TARA ZANDVLIET: There are a lot of grandma type neighbours that love to hold babies even when they’re crying. So…

KRISTEN STRATTON: Yes.

DOCTOR TARA ZANDVLIET: Take advantage of them. There are two other things I wanted to mention too. One is probiotics. Lactobacillus, this is where they started noticing that probiotics helped with colic and so then they started doing the investigations as to why, that’s where that theory of microbiome being part of this colic thing came from. So giving your child a little lactobacillus, they have baby probiotics, you can use the powders. But quite frankly you can just get the lactobacillus from one of the stores, crush it up, wet your finger, stick it in the powder and let him suck on it. And just one finger full basically it’s about enough and it works beautifully.

KRISTEN STRATTON: You know, I also want to mention baby wearing. Baby wearing was also a survival technique for us, because I had two other children and I couldn’t just sit and hold my screaming baby all day, so doing…I did skin to skin baby wearing. So I just basically had like my bra on, it was only to hold the breast milk pads on because I was breastfeeding,

DOCTOR TARA ZANDVLIET: Right.

KRISTEN STRATTON: And did some baby wearing. Yeah...so itleaked all over the place, butskin to skin baby wearing which actually was helpful soothing him, and I think also that pressure on his tummy was helpful. And then I had hands free to take care of my other children.

DOCTOR TARA ZANDVLIET: I recommend earplugs when it gets desperate too.

KRISTEN STRATTON: Yeah. You know what? My sister-in-law did that.They used earplugs. You know what? You do what you have to do to get through the day. Right?

DOCTOR TARA ZANDVLIET: That’s it! That’s it!

KRISTEN STRATTON: Thank you so much, Doctor Z, for chatting with us today about ways to spot colic in your baby and forour Newbies club members, our conversation will continue after the end of the show, as Doctor Z. will talk about developmental milestones which are associated with increased crying and how you can soothe your baby. For more information about the Newbies club, please visit our website at www.newmommymedia.com.

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SUNNY GAULT: All right. So, it is time for a funny baby Oops. And I love this, because this is your opportunity, the listeners of the show, it’s your opportunity to be heard and to share your funny stories of caring for your baby during this first year. So it could be funny things that you did as a parent, or your spouse did, significant others or it could be something funny your baby did.

So, this one comes from Jenny. And it’s funny because Kristen you were talking about leaking through your breast pads, so this is a leaky breast pads story. So, Jenny says;
“We forgot breast pads at home and Liam had not cried at all when I was in the room yet”. Liam is her son. We were getting him loaded into the car when he decided he did not like his car seat. By the time our thirty five mile which took almost two hours due to ice on the road drive was completed, I have leaked so badly, Brad had to have the seat cleaned, it was soaked through and through my clothing which was light colour, the light coloured shirt was permanently stained and my jeans made crunching sounds when I climbed out of the car. That was by far the most embarrassing thing ever as of course someone was waiting for us at home and saw me like that.”

So, there you go, poor Jenny. Poor Jenny. Forgetting her breast pads. I don’t know, when I was that full, I meanI’m still nursing my twins but I never really get super full, I hardly ever leak and so I know that stage that she’s talking about. And you know, I have a few extra ones and diaper bags and purses in any place that I could, probably stuffed in my car console. You know that middle console in your car? Anything I could because that was kind of crazy.

KRISTEN STRATTON: I really like the cloth breast pads. Those actually were really helpful for me because I did not have so much of like explosive shower rain coming out of my breasts, but it was enough that I didn’t want to be walking around with wet shirts all the time, which I also had done. It’s interesting when you go shopping and some of the people keep staring at your breasts and you’re like why? And you see that you’re just like completely soaked, like wet t-shirt contests. So, like “ah, I get it”.

SUNNY GAULT: I like the reusable’s.

KRISTEN STRATTON: It was eco friendly.

SUNNY GAULT: I had those too. And I also felt that they conformed to my body a little bit better. Sometimes the other ones are a little too stiff . . .

KRISTEN STRATTON: They become itchy sometimes.

SUNNY GAULT: Itchy and they make you have those like Madonna pointed boobs sometimes and I don’t know…

KRISTEN STRATTON: Who really want those?

SUNNY GAULT: I don’t know. Oh, God. All right. Anyway…So, Jenny, thanks so much for sending us this question. If you guys have a funny baby Oops you want to share with us, we would love to hear it and we’d love to chat about it on the show and just have a good time. So you can go to our website at www.newmommymedia.com and you can send us an email through the website or you can even send us a voicemail through the website which is kind of cool, because you don’t even have to pick up your phone. Just click that grey little button on the side of all the New Mommy Media pages, it says send voicemail and you can use your microphone and your computer and send it that way.

KRISTEN STRATTON: That wraps up our show for today. We appreciate you listening to Newbies.
Don’t forget to check out our sister show:
• Preggie Pals for expecting parents
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